Cordless drills?

[Analog]

The cord on my drill is about worn out. What about these newfangled cordless drills? What makes 'em run? What is the best brand to buy? Some guy named D.Walt said he could sell me a good one, but his little japanese neighbor M.Akita says his is better. Any suggestions from you perfessionals?

[I_got_ideas]

The guys all laughed at me when I brought my Black and Pecker to the shop but now I am the one laughing every time they send thier Dewalt crap in to get rebuilt. My batteries also last longer. The only problem with B&D, the warranty is void if used for professional use, go figure, it has warranty but not if you use it:rolleyes: .

I have heard a lot of good about Porter Cable though I have never used one myself. If I have to buy again I believe it'll be Milwaukee.

[RoBoTeq]

DeWalt is Black & Decker. DeWalt is just a name B&D came up with to keep their pro line from being associated with the crap that B&D had put out for a few years.


I still use and love my 12volt Makitas.

[Breeze]

B and D 14.4 v drill, saws, flashlight. Hey it works for me and they are cheap enough to replace when they break.

[Analog]

Breeze, the correct answer was: I get the joke, Analog you rookie.

[BamaCracker]

The cord on my drill is about worn out. What about these newfangled cordless drills? What makes 'em run? What is the best brand to buy? Some guy named D.Walt said he could sell me a good one, but his little japanese neighbor M.Akita says his is better. Any suggestions from you perfessionals?
What makes em run is electrons. Since all matter has electrons, and everything is matter (except in space) there are elctrons whizzing around you all the time. Simply cut off that frayed, worn cord, and let the electrons come in through the hole where the cord was.

The downside to this is; if you take it with you on the shuttle, it only works on the inside, since there is air inside. (air = matter = electrons)

I have a large collection of bright yellow tools with black batteries. They seem to work pretty good, Analog you rookie.

[jmac00]

DeWalt--- 18 volt, can't beat'em

I have their ½" drill/driver and their 5" circular saw and their 7.2 Volt screwdriver and their radio/battery charger ( the one you can drop a house on and it won't break )

And Bamas right about the "whole theory", except if you take your cord and tie a knot in it the electrons can no longer flow :D :D

besides, as far as I can figure, the only reason they put cords on them things is so you can lower them to the floor when standing on a ladder ;)

[BamaCracker]

besides, as far as I can figure, the only reason they put cords on them things is so you can lower them to the floor when standing on a ladder ;)
And we have ALL done that, ain't we?!?!

You crack me up J-man!

[MR.FREEZ]

i like my 18volt dewalt had it a couple years and no problems yet:D

[Mr.BagTek]

You can't beat Milwaukee. I have a five year old 18 volt with a hammer drill setting. Replaced the batteries once. Really takes a beating and still works great. Id buy another one in a second.

[Micron]

DeWalt is Black & Decker. DeWalt is just a name B&D came up with to keep their pro line from being associated with the crap that B&D had put out for a few years.


I still use and love my 12volt Makitas.
i'm tramatized! this can't be true! :baby

[koololdman]

I used a Craftsman 14.4 volt for 5 years............no problems, and the batteries lasted longer than other's Dewalts.
So when the trigger stuck open, I got a Craftsman 19.2 volt with a cordless flashlight that lights up a whole attic or crawlspace.........For 99 bucks, I think I have a better drill, and it's cheap enough to replace.

[jmac00]

my next cordless drill is going to have a Hemi V-8 attached to it ~~~~~ turbo too !!! :eek: :eek:

[Charlie]

I have had a 12 volt Dewalt for 10 years with two batteries being alternated. I would get another Dewalt. Wish it had that cord to let off the ladder. :D It falls and keeps on drilling. Just like those..............................................E-A-G-L-E-S

[bb_]

I know . Some say that Ryobi is junk but we use the 18v line (circular saw, flashlights , hammer drills and regular drills). The actual tools hold up very well. It's the batteries that go kapooey on ya. If they are discharged too fast or run down too low then you will fry a cell or five.http://www.talk-air.com/vb3-05/images/smilies/4.gif It cost as much to buy two replacement battery packs as it does to buy the whole damn combo at Homo Depot.

When I have to do it all over again I will try to find some packs that are NiMh instead of NiCads.

I've heard Milwakee is a good line but pricey.

[jmac00]

I know . Some say that Ryobi is junk but we use the 18v line (circular saw, flashlights , hammer drills and regular drills). The actual tools hold up very well. It's the batteries that go kapooey on ya. If they are discharged too fast or run down too low then you will fry a cell or five.http://www.talk-air.com/vb3-05/images/smilies/4.gif It cost as much to buy two replacement battery packs as it does to buy the whole damn combo at Homo Depot.

When I have to do it all over again I will try to find some packs that are NiMh instead of NiCads.

I've heard Milwakee is a good line but pricey.

I got the 18V dewalt, and I was looking for replacement batteries. (1) 18V battery was $72. at home depot you can get (2) 18v batteries for $99......i can never figure out that marketing scheme

[Mr.BagTek]

I've heard Milwakee is a good line but pricey.

Buy Milwaukee on Ebay. You won't believe the prices. And you won't believe what a great tool they make.:chill

[Breeze]

I will re iterate: Buy the cheap stuff that works, uses same batteries as other stuff then when it breaks buy it again for half what you last paid. You can get a can of yellow paint for $4 if you want to look cool. Of course now someone is going to want to steal your stuff :eek:


My last great buy was B&D 5"? roto saw, $99, 18.4 volts (hey I can jump my truck with that) It cuts plywood like butter. Easy to see where you are cutting with its little window. If it lasts one year it paid for it self.

[Mr.BagTek]

I will re iterate: Buy the cheap stuff that works, uses same batteries as other stuff then when it breaks buy it again for half what you last paid. You can get a can of yellow paint for $4 if you want to look cool. Of course now someone is going to want to steal your stuff :eek: My last great buy was B&D 5"? roto saw, $99, 18.4 volts (hey I can jump my truck with that) It cuts plywood like butter. Easy to see where you are cutting with its little window. If it lasts one year it paid for it self.

Lets see. A $99 tool that lasts 1 years costs you $99 dollars a year. My Milwaukee drill cost $279 and Ive had it over five years and it's still going strong. You do the math. And I'll tell ya, I beat the snot out of this thing. A few weeks back I ran a 4" holesaw through the side of a house no problem. And ya know what, I refuse to make my living with tools made in China.

[Breeze]

I was being facetious about the longevity of my tools. :D

[hvac r us 2]

I still use and love my 12volt Makitas.

I can't believe it but I agree with Robo! :)

I have had nothing but Makita since I came into the trade 20 years ago. I upgraded once and lost one drill in the snow on a big commercial job. Eventually found the lost drill, the chuck was all rusted but it still ran!

[hvac r us 2]

I used a Craftsman 14.4 volt for 5 years............no problems, and the batteries lasted longer than other's Dewalts.
So when the trigger stuck open, I got a Craftsman 19.2 volt with a cordless flashlight that lights up a whole attic or crawlspace.........For 99 bucks, I think I have a better drill, and it's cheap enough to replace.

I have nothing against Craftsman, except the time I was accused by a nutty homeowner of taking his stupid Craftsman drill. They guy damn near stocked me looking for his drill. :(

[Analog]

I have nothing against Craftsman, except the time I was accused by a nutty homeowner of taking his stupid Craftsman drill. They guy damn near stocked me looking for his drill. :(



That damn Vila never knows when to give up.......:D

[hvac r us 2]

That damn Vila never knows when to give up.......http://www.talk-air.com/vb3-05/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Hell his wife was the worst, heres the story in case you didnt see it...


I worked for the same dealer for 14 years. I got my first customer complaint after about 10 years of being there and let me tell you this guy was a nut!

He was convinced I stole his Craftsman drill! His evidence was that I drilled a hole in his flue pipe to check draft, so I must have used his drill?

He called the shop and I told him I used my own drill, and he suggested that I picked his drill up by accident. I tried to explain to him that I don’t even own any Craftsman tools, he didn’t believe me.

Next day he shows up at the shop and demands to see inside my truck. The boss pulls me aside and says “listen, this guy is a little nutty, I will go with you let’s go look in your truck and put his mind at ease”

So I agreed just so I don’t have to see this goofy bastard anymore.

So I, the nutty homeowner and the company owner go out to my truck to see what is in there. After an inspection of my truck produced no Craftsman drill he seemed satisfied and went home.

The next day he is back at the shop again, but this time he brings his even nuttier wife. She storms in (with him following) and gets right in my face.

She is screaming about how I better return this drill or else, and she wants to know where I live because I must have taken his drill home and am now using it at home…

All the while I am thinking what is up with this drill? Is it made of gold or something?

I was patient up to this point and now decided enough was enough.

So here I am in a shouting match with this goofy prick in his coke bottle glasses, and his short chunky wife…I just didn’t understand what part of I didn’t see your drill, I didn’t use your drill, I don’t give a damn about your drill that they didn’t get. So it’s gets loud and the boss comes out to see what all the commotion is.

The boss defends me 100% and told them to get out and never come back again or he will file a restraining order against them.

So a few days go by and I am downtown working on a rooftop at the bank. I come down the ladder heading for my truck and I see somebody with my side door open rummaging in my truck. I think somebody is stealing my stuff so I starting running towards my truck yelling WTF are you doing?

The guy sees me, jumps out and gets in his car and takes off. I will give you three guess who it was and the first two don’t count!

So I call the boss and he files a restraining order against him.

But this doesn’t stop the nutty wife from calling the office every single day. One day yelling the next crying…you wouldn’t believe how many messages she would leave on the machine. So now the boss calls his attorney about filing a harassment case against them…

This goes on and off for weeks…then finally goes away.

The following season, they call the office for annual maintenance on there furnace! LOL

Needless to say we never went out, what an experience. That was over 9 years ago and it still feels like yesterday, I can still clearly picture everything in my head.

Oh well, at least I got a new drill out of the situation! :)

[Mr.BagTek]

Man, I would have jacked that dude up seriously. Especially when you found him in your truck. That would have been it. Done deal.

[jmac00]

thats why you should carry a camera, a picture is worth a couple of words....to the DA

[Breeze]

Oh well, at least I got a new drill out of the situation! :)

So does this mean you really did take it? I saw this guy at lowes today that put a drill bit in his basket but forgot to take it out and place on counter. He slips on out with it. :cool:

[jmac00]

So does this mean you really did take it? I saw this guy at lowes today that put a drill bit in his basket but forgot to take it out and place on counter. He slips on out with it. :cool:

that ain't no thang, TBB went to Homeless Hippo to get the guts for a toilet. she got 2 sets of ball valves and flush controls, when she went to check out the goof at the counter rang up the stuff but most have thought he made a mistake, so he voided "something" and she ended up with $36 worth of stuff for $6.00...........don't ask I got no clue how it all went down, I'm just relaying the story.

The people on the registers are just stupid. Heck I once got 50LBs of drywall screws for 0.29¢ ( it was suppose to be 29¢ PER pound )

[condenseddave]

thats why you should carry a camera, a picture is worth a couple of words....to the DA


Ya, I always take my own crime scene photos, so they can see MY side of the story.;)

[condenseddave]

I got the 18V dewalt, and I was looking for replacement batteries. (1) 18V battery was $72. at home depot you can get (2) 18v batteries for $99......i can never figure out that marketing scheme

They run loss leaders like that constantly to get you into their hellholes.

Don't worry, they shamelessly bend you over and nail you in the kiester somewhere else, like in the caulking aisle, the fastener aisle, the cheap, wet lumber aisle, the substandard-plumbing aisle...

Hey! They sell those Chinese black pipe fittings. CHEAP! I fell one night, for their prices, and bought some 2" fittings, because I needed them in the morning, and thought I'd save myself a trip to the wholesaler, time in the am, and some gasoline. COOL! Until I installed them. Some of the ells were 85°, some of them were 110°... The unions looked like 45s. I was, to say the least, not taking pics of that particular job.:(

One union wouldn't even seal, good thing I had a Ward union in the truck.

I vowed then and there to never make that mistake again. The price difference isn't worth it. They're really a last ditch if-I-don't-get-it-now-somebody'll-die place for ANYTHING for me. My reputation is worth more than a few dollars in fittings savings.

I won't buy tools there, either. I'm a Makita-holic. Big time. I have a dozen different Makita drills, from their version of the Hole Hawg, to an 1-1/2" rotary hammer, to an assortment of cordless and corded drills and hammer drills, not to mention the saws, flashlights, etc. I figure that I have about 20 Makita tools in my truck alone, not to mention the shop stuff.

I'm a creature of habit when it comes to tools. It shows in my truck, mostly.

Piping tools are ALL rigids.

Larger electrical tools are Greenlee, the hand tools are Kleins, Craftsman, (Wrenches, etal. NON-Moving-part-tools.:rolleyes: ) meters are, well, let's not head down THAT road right now.:D

Gauges, and refrig tools in general are Yellow Jacket.

I don't buy cheap tools, simply because they're cheap. Most of the high-ticket tools I have, I have had for ten years or more. I haven't really bought a tool, other than a replacement for something broken, in five years.

I have gotten some GREAT deals from ebay, and from some guys that retired around here, BTW.

[hvac r us 2]

So does this mean you really did take it? :cool:

Yeah, right.

I wouldnt want his cheap Craftsman stuff anywhere near my Makita stuff for the fear it might reproduce a genetic defect. :D

[jmac00]

All of my CORDLESS stuff is DeWalt. But I'm considering switching to Milwaukee. I was on a construction job and the rest of the crew was using Milwaukee tools, AAALLL day long without a recharge. They were drilling a kazillion 1¼" holes and the drill didn't bog down at all, I was impressed. They were not 'new' tools either, those guys beat the crap out of them.

[Breeze]

I was a bit embarrased using my 14.4 drill (B&D) to cut my stat wire holes through 3 2x4's but the drill tore right through it. The 3/8" x 18" bit on the other hand was suppose to cost $12, it didnt have a shanked end so slipped in the drill under that awsome B&D torque :D I can fix it though.

Now my paslode messed up on me yesterday but thats another story, maybe Jmac can tell me if they are suppose to be overhauled every 5 yrs.

[jmac00]

Now my paslode messed up on me yesterday but thats another story, maybe Jmac can tell me if they are suppose to be overhauled every 5 yrs.

UUUM yes, to test whether it's working correctly, take the gun. Place the nail shooting part under your chin and pull the trigger, if you have a headache for more than 6weeks, seek medical attention, you may have a cavity :D:D:D

[Breeze]

It doesnt always fire, has gas, battery charged, nothing jamed in there I know that because I looked straight in to the end where nail comes out :eek: I was wearing my safety goggles :eek: :eek:

So I take and practice on some framing and just keep trying and finally it goes off. Sure glad I wasn't holding other side.

[jmac00]

change out the gas can, it sounds like there is enough gas to make it go BANG, but not enough to drive a nail:rolleyes:

[spidee]

If I was to go and buy a new drill, think I would go Rigid I hear good things about them.My rigid corded tools are top notch.



Did'nt Black and decker buy Dewalt right before they started there Firestorm line?Which is why Firestorm is a better drill than the old B&D crap.
My firestorm is going strong after a long time while My ryobi has gone through 2 batteries! When I bought my Firestorm the only difference was the chuck Plastic on B&D and metal on a dewalt.

[jmac00]

DeWalt is a division of B&D

[muskie]

I was told at the homo depot that Rigid cordless tools are Ryobi. Been using Panasonic for years with no trouble, I wouldn't consider anything else.

[Breeze]

change out the gas can, it sounds like there is enough gas to make it go BANG, but not enough to drive a nail:rolleyes:

I changed out the can 3 times. Removed the nails, tried other ones, gave up and screwed the boot hangers in. LAter I thought, it sure would be fun to make some noise again so I kept trying till it worked. This has happened before but it usually fixes right away. Battery was also fully charged.

[spidee]

DeWalt is a division of B&D Yeah now! but what i was saying is I think that Dewalt and B&D were completly different companies at one time.


I own a Ryobi and used a Rigid, they are not even close to being the same.

[jmac00]

Yeah now! but what i was saying is I think that Dewalt and B&D were completly different companies at one time.


I own a Ryobi and used a Rigid, they are not even close to being the same.

UUuummm I don't know if B&D started DeWalt, or if they 'aquired' dewalt???

[hvac r us 2]

Anybody interested in a slighlty used Craftsman drill? :D

[jmac00]

Anybody interested in a slighlty used Craftsman drill? :D


:D:D:D:D:D

[Mr.BagTek]

I was at Costco tonight. They have an 18 volt Coleman with two batteries for $36. It actually didn't seem too crappy either.

[jmac00]

anyone got a cordless sawz-all ??? I was thinking of picking one of them up ???

[muskie]

I got the Milwaukee cordless sawz-all. It's ok, but doesn't stay charged for very long. Good for small jobs like cutting a hole through the roof, or sawing off closet bolts. Mine came with a hammer drill in a kit, let the smoke out of two of them so I tossed it over the hill. Sawz-all still works though. The batteries are kind of tough to get on and off and take a long time to charge. I had one battery go bad in two years, I think a replacement costs around $80. I would buy another sawz-all if this one went bad.

[Breeze]

Cordless recip? I have two of the firestorm 14.4 recip saws. Quick blade change, tough for all sorts of stuff. Not too heavy and less than $100. When I bought them they used same battery as my drill and flash light from same people.

All you need to do is paint them yellow and your buddies won't give you any problems :D

[Mr.BagTek]

anyone got a cordless sawz-all ??? I was thinking of picking one of them up ???

Ive got a cordless Milwaukee Hatchet sawzall. It really is a great tool and fits in places other sawzalls won't. It will cut a lot considering its cordless. The only problem I see is it burns up batteries in 2 years if you use it a lot. This stuff is all over Ebay cheap.

[Breeze]

I really like those that bend like that. Bet there high $ ?

[Mr.BagTek]

EBAY!!! I think I paid like $140 for mine with one battery.

[Pegleg Smith]

I have a DeWalt sawz-all. It works well, as long as the battery lasts. I have this really nifty tool that says Miliwauki (sp) sawz-all that actually has a cord connected to it:eek: (how ancient is that!). It seems to last all day when it is connected to the wall plug! It never runs out of juice just when you need it the most. In fact I have had to change blades in the thing because all the cuts I've made dulled the first blade! Can you imagine that!?

[jmac00]

I have a DeWalt sawz-all. It works well, as long as the battery lasts. I have this really nifty tool that says Miliwauki (sp) sawz-all that actually has a cord connected to it:eek: (how ancient is that!). It seems to last all day when it is connected to the wall plug! It never runs out of juice just when you need it the most. In fact I have had to change blades in the thing because all the cuts I've made dulled the first blade! Can you imagine that!?

I just use the cord to lower it to the floor :D

[Mr.BagTek]

I have a DeWalt sawz-all. It works well, as long as the battery lasts. I have this really nifty tool that says Miliwauki (sp) sawz-all that actually has a cord connected to it:eek: (how ancient is that!). It seems to last all day when it is connected to the wall plug! It never runs out of juice just when you need it the most. In fact I have had to change blades in the thing because all the cuts I've made dulled the first blade! Can you imagine that!?

So....there's like a wire thing instead of a battery???????:confused:

[hvacbear]

What about cordless impact drivers? I have one and they are great.

[mattm]

I've got a cordless Milwaukee Sawzall and it's real cool except like said the batteries go quick.


I just yesterday bought a cordless DeWalt rotor hammer. I borrowed an electricians the other day and they are the shit. I've got a corded one but the cordless rocks.

[Analog]

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[Duct Dr]

I've had the Ridgid 18 volt 4 piece kit since Nov. and it's by far the best I've owned. My 4 piece Craftsman kit has since been retired, or should I say given to my wife.